Join me, Dr. Jewel White-Williams, as I sit down with the inspiring Whitney Prude, a board-certified clinical pharmacist turned wellness coach, who shares her incredible journey of transformation. After receiving a life-changing autoimmune disease diagnosis, Whitney was forced to re-evaluate her career path and ultimately embraced her true calling as a motivational speaker and wellness advocate. Her story is a powerful testament to resilience and adaptability, as she transitioned from her initial dream of working in clinical pharmacy to empowering others to transform their health and lives.
We don't often hear about the critical role pharmacists play in healthcare, but Whitney and I explore their essential contributions to medication safety and patient wellness. Pharmacists are not just dispensers of medication; they are educators and increasingly, business owners, blending traditional medicine with holistic practices. By understanding the root causes of health issues, rather than just treating symptoms, we can guide patients toward sustainable health improvements. Together, Whitney and I highlight the importance of addressing mental and emotional health as part of this holistic approach to care.
Emotional eating can often be a hurdle in achieving true wellness, and we tackle this topic head-on. By understanding the emotional triggers behind unhealthy behaviors and asking ourselves key questions, we can uncover the emotions driving these impulses and work towards holistic well-being. It's all about stress management, adequate sleep, and self-prioritization. Whitney shares insights on making joyful lifestyle choices, like the occasional indulgence in cold-pressed juices, as part of maintaining a balanced life. For more inspiration and support, connect with Whitney through her website, mywholeandhappylife.com, and embark on your journey towards a whole and happy life.
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Speaker 1: In the hospital.
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There's several things that pharmacists do, and one of those
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things is that pharmacists verify every single medication
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order that a physician puts in before it ever makes it to the
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patient.
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If something comes through that's not appropriate, that's
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harmful, that's wrong in any sense of the word.
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Speaker 2: Right as pharmacists, we're calling the providers,
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we're sending notes messages whatever to the providers and
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saying, hey, we need to get this fixed.
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You're listening to Cold Press Conversations with Dr Jewel
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White-Williams, a lover of numbers, lists and a good glass
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of cold press juice, who is sharing episodes each week to
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help you explore the back end of healthcare and health sciences,
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where a lot of that grit is done.
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We'll dive into topics covering research, education and
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clinical practices, as well as guest shows with other leaders
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in the field.
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Pull up a seat and let's dive into these amazing and
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game-changing conversations.
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Hello and welcome to Cold Press Conversations.
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My name is Dr Jewel Williams and I am elated today that I have
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Whitney Prude.
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She is a practicing board-certified clinical
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pharmacist, as well as a Mayo Clinic-certified wellness coach
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and nationally certified health and wellness coach.
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Certified wellness coach and nationally certified health and
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wellness coach.
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Whitney is also certified in medication therapy management
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and pharmacogenomics.
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She currently works part-time as an inpatient clinical
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pharmacist at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, minnesota, where she
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has been there for seven years.
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She's a public speaker, entrepreneur, ceo of Whole and
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Happy Living, where she helps individuals truly transform
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their health from inside out while also losing weight in a
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way that can be maintained long term.
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I am elated to have Whitney Prude, how are you doing today?
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I'm good.
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Thank you for having me.
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It's a pleasure to be here.
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I'm going to be honest with you .
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I am elated because I have someone who is an expert in the
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house.
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You're probably like what you know.
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You're a clinical pharmacist at Mayo Clinic and I just want to
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know what made you want to start this business and transition
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into coaching.
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it was never in my plan.
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It was never in my plan.
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No, no, it wasn't.
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My dream was to become a pharmacist.
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Ever since I was in high school , I wanted to be a pharmacist.
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I worked wholeheartedly, I put everything into becoming a
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pharmacist getting through pharmacy school, doing residency
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, getting into a hospital.
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Nine months into my first job at the Mayo Clinic, I started to
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get a pain in both of my wrists , using the computer, verifying
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orders, doing some, you know, dispensing and checking of
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medications.
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You know I thought, okay, give it a couple weeks I'll be back
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to normal, and within about two months I was actually diagnosed
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with an autoimmune disease.
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Nobody completely knows exactly what it is, but I have, you
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know, labs indicating rheumatoid arthritis and lupus and
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essentially it turned my life upside down.
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I had a lot of restrictions.
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I couldn't use the computer anymore at work, which is, I
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mean, 90% of my job.
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You know I wanted to grow in the profession.
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I wanted to really move to a.
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I was in the central pharmacy.
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I wanted to move to, you know, the ICU, be, you know, very
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clinical pharmacist.
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That was always my dream.
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As I got sick, you know, I I ended up starting to give some
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of that up, not really knowing what was going on with my body.
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And so I was 28 years old.
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It took about two months until I was nearly bedridden.
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I was completely fatigued.
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I could only do like one thing in a day I could maybe get, you
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know, take a shower, and the rest of the day, you know, I'm
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in bed, could hardly climb the stairs.
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It was awful, it was absolutely awful.
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So you know, I'm there, 28 years old, $200 of student
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loans hanging over my head and I say, holy crap, what do I do
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now?
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So that's when I started tapping into well, what would I
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do if I wasn't a pharmacist?
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And, for whatever reason, I always had a dream to become a
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motivational speaker.
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And so I was like, okay, well, let's start going the
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motivational speaking route.
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So I started going to Toastmasters, doing a lot of
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speaking, and along with speaking, people usually do
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something.
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It's like have coaching or write a lot of speaking, and
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along with speaking, people usually do something.
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You know, it's like have coaching or write a book or
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whatever.
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And so I started looking into coaching.
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I was like, oh my gosh, you know like I've been doing this
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my whole life.
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I've been coaching, like my friends, my family members, even
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when they didn't want me to.
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You know, I'm like forcing myself on them, trying to fix
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their lives.
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So it just really, you know, it kind of all fell into place of
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finding what I feel like now I was really meant to do.
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But gosh, it was a much longer journey to get there than it
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needed to be.
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Speaker 2: When you mentioned working in a pharmacy and it was
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affecting your risks, and it made me immediately think of the
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pharmacist that I used to work with and all they did, even back
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when they had the computer, regardless of how big or
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antiquated it was, they always did everything.
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The process was with the computer and I'm like what is
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she going to do next?
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I'm just thinking about the process.
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You're so young and then you mentioned the amount of money
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that you had hanging over your head, but, being a pharmacist,
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you have so much to offer the public, the wealth of
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information.
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Instead of me explaining, I would like for you to if you
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don't mind, I just want to kind of go back explain the depth of
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what a pharmacist really has for a knowledge base for their
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community.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to .
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I think a lot of times pharmacists actually are
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forgotten, they're behind the scenes so nobody really actually
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recognizes, especially in like a hospital setting, what
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pharmacists actually do.
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But in the hospitals there's several things that pharmacists
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do no-transcript.
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Sure that everybody's doing their jobs correctly, even
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nurses.
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It's like if they don't know how to do some part of their job
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, they're calling pharmacy.
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You know, and we essentially try to figure out.
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You know an answer for them.
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But essentially in order to be able to look at medication
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orders and know whether or not it's appropriate for a patient,
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for you know what we're treating , the interactions with all of
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their other medications, the lab values that they have, like
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we're literally going through everything.
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So we have all of the knowledge base, all of the medical
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knowledge of being able to, you know, treat a patient, and then
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the in-depth knowledge of the medications and what's
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appropriate and what's not and what can actually do harm, and
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there's a lot of you know.
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It's like there's residents, there's new, you know medical
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residents that are coming through the hospital and every
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year, you know we come to the start of you know medical
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residents coming on board and you know at that point in time
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like we are changing things like crazy because they're new,
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right and they there's a lot of stuff that they don't know, and
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so pharmacists really make a huge, a huge difference in terms
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of medications, making sure that patients don't get harmed
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with their medications and, you know, really reviewing and
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looking over everything to make sure that they're kept safe,
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that they're getting the correct doses, the correct medication,
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preventing, you know, preventing any number of things from
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actually happening.
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Speaker 2: The reason I wanted you to explain is one of the
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things that I have noticed and I've been witnessing.
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Pharmacists are opening their own businesses not all of them,
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but I've seen several lately and what they're doing?
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They're becoming the educator for their community and really
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helping their clients, their patients, with medication
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management.
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Mm-hmm, I mean like they're really making a huge difference,
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and I can see you meeting the needs of the community.
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When you are the wellness coach , you're probably taking it to a
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whole different level.
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I'm not lessening anyone than the average wellness coach.
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I'm not lessening anyone.
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Your knowledge base and your background has to really make a
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true intersection between traditional medicine and
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holistic wellness approaches Yep .
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So how do you apply that and holistic wellness approaches Yep
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.
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Speaker 1: So how do you apply that when you're coaching with
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their patient care?
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We have really complex patients , clients we do, and I mean I
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think that those types of people are drawn to us for that reason
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.
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You know, when they see my credentials and they see my
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certifications and kind of, how I put things together, because
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you know there there are disease states that that require
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medications and you know there are things I'm even me with my
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autoimmune disease.
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If I, if I didn't have medications to you know, to be
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able to help with the autoimmune disease, you know I probably
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wouldn't be alive right now Like it would have, you know, my
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body would have destroyed itself essentially.
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So, so, understanding that there's a place for medications,
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but also a lot of medications are bandages and we use them as
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crutches so that we don't actually have to take care of
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ourselves and prioritize our health and do the things that
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are actually required to have a healthy body.
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So, instead of taking the crutch , let's get you as healthy as
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you possibly can be, let's control everything that's in our
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control and get your body as healthy as it can possibly be
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and then, where there are aspects that we can no longer
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change with lifestyle changes, then there may be a place for
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medication, but as a society we don't.
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We don't do that Most of the time.
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You know we're not.
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We're not going to the doctor and saying you know, tell me to
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go home and kick my butt in gear and exercise and eat healthy
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and, you know, take care of my mental and emotional health,
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right?
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We go to the doctor because we want a quick fix, we want a
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medication, we want the problem to go away and we want to go on
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with our life the same way that we were always living.
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Speaker 2: You're probably personalizing it to the point
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where you're noticing various patient outcomes.
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Give me a reflection on how your patient is feeling with the
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outcome, because you said it's not bandaging what's going on.
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We're not just covering it up or making it feel better.
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You're in the intent of let's go to the root issue and see
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where we can go.
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So how is this making such strides and such differences in
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your patients and their outcomes ?
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Speaker 1: The coolest thing that we do is that we dive into
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the mental and emotional stuff.
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Nobody really wants to go there , right, but we have to unpack
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this and this is what nobody this is what nobody wants to
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touch.
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If you think about the diet and weight loss industry okay,
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people are, you know.
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They say, okay, I'm unhealthy, I'm gaining weight, I maybe my
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cholesterol is high, I have high blood pressure or you know,
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maybe I'm pre-diabetic or I'm diabetic, whatever.
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Right, all of these physical signs of things that we can see
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that are happening with our health.
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But then what we do from there is we say I have to change my
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food and I have to exercise.
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But what we never do is we never ask the question of why in the
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world have I gotten here in the first place?
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What is actually driving my behavior?
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Because food is not forcing you to be unhealthy.
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You are making choices.
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You're making decisions that are driving your behavior and
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that's what's caused you to end up where you are with your
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physical health.
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So if we really want to transform your physical health,
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we have to start addressing the root cause what in the world has
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gotten you here in the first place and what is keeping you
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stuck and the reality is is it's all the crap that we've all
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been through throughout our entire lives, that's built up,
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that we're unaware of.
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We've developed coping mechanisms and we're just trying
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to survive.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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So let me ask you this question Do you have a therapist on site
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as well?
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Speaker 1: That's a good question.
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So we don't have a therapist on site within our company, we
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just do coaching.
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And I have a lot of people ask this of like, wait a second.
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So you're dealing with mental and emotional stuff, but you're
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not therapists, right.
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So we are coaches and coaches have a specific niche.
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Right, we are actually helping people deal with life, get
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through life challenges, get through health challenges, right
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.
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But there's one really really cool aspect of coaching that a
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lot of people don't recognize Now, with therapy, usually you
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know you're digging deep into the past and you're reliving
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experiences and processing those experiences, and it's very,
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it's very much, you know, going backwards.
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Okay, coaching is figuring out what's caused us, right.
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So we're we're pinpointing, okay, so these things happen,
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this is what caused you to get here.
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Okay, we're acknowledging and we're recognizing the things
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that have caused us to do what we're doing.
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We may do some exercises to help ourselves kind of process
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some of those experiences, but then what we do with coaching is
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we focus on moving forward and upward.
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It's a different process, right , we're looking into the future,
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we're saying these are the things that are standing in the
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way.
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We'll try to process some of those things and work through
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those things, but in terms of moving forward and upwards, we
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need to know who we are, why we're doing what we're doing.
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We need to learn how to genuinely show up for ourselves
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and love ourselves and realize that we actually deserve to be
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healthy.
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We actually deserve to be on the top of our priority list, not
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at the bottom or even off of the list.
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So, learning to genuinely value ourselves and to find our true
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internal motivation that we actually deserve to be healthy,
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and making ourselves that number one priority so that, as all of
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these other things are coming up in our lives, our jobs are
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getting more demanding, people are asking us to participate in
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stuff.
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We have to start saying no Because we say wait a second,
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this is interfering with my health, right.
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I'm not healthy, like I can't be healthy and do the things
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that you're asking me to do, so the answer needs to be no.
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So we help people to really increase their awareness, to
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become very, very strong internally and empower them to
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essentially create the life that they deserve to live and their
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health right, getting their health to their ideal place,
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where then they can maintain it long term.
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It's not just jumping on a diet , a quick fix, and then jumping
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off and going back to everything that they've done before.
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But because we're truly transforming ourselves
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internally, then we continue doing what we're doing and
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staying healthy, because it's become who we are.
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Speaker 2: Okay, you focus on weight loss, right, yeah, and so
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I'm sure you have, like, various principles or strategies
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that you work with with weight loss.
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But before we go there, I just want to know what would you
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consider some of your most important factors that need to
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be in place to lose weight in a healthy and sustainable way?
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Speaker 1: Stress.
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I'm always approaching things that people don't expect us to
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be approaching.
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You know it's like they expect to jump onto a program that we
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give them a meal plan that they're going to try and follow,
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and then, you know, give them some exercise to do and lose
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weight essentially.
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But the problem is, is that that's not the full picture,
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right?
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If you're sleeping two to three , four or five hours a night,
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your body's not going to allow you to lose weight in the way
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that you want to.
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If you're chronically stressed you're working, you know you're
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keeping yourself so busy that you don't even have any downtime
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.
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You don't have any time for your body to relax and recover
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You're not going to be able to lose weight like you want to
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lose weight.
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So we still have to work on these things on the back end.
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We have to have those things in place because if our body is
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fighting against us when we're trying to change our food and
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our exercise right, we're still not going to be able to see the
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results that we want.
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So sleep is essential.
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Stress decreasing, your stress decreasing, you know, just the
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busyness and overall stress in your life is absolutely
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essential.
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And then you know, of course, we've got food, we've got the
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exercise, we've got water intake , you know and and you know the
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specific ways that we do nutrition and increasing your
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protein.
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I mean, it's almost basics, right?
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It's things that you've heard your whole life, that have been
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forgotten because we've been flooded with so much information
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about diets and weight loss and how we can trick our bodies
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into losing all this weight super quickly and destroying our
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metabolisms.
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I mean, we're just getting back to the basics, to the way that
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our bodies are designed to function You're redirecting.
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Speaker 2: It's a form of repetition.
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We pick up patterns, we pick up certain things in our lives and
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it becomes rote rote memory or rote process.
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Yep, now what I'm hearing is that you're emphasizing that
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their goals can be achieved.
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It's just that you're redirecting how they're using
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their path of eating, their path of living, and I think that's
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amazing because I love the title .
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I've got to say it again.
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If anyone missed, it is your company is called Whole and
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Happy Living and you're working on the transformation and
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sustainable weight loss.
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You have to be impacting your audiences.
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We got to let everyone know.
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Whitney Prude, dr Whitney Prude , she is a public speaker and,
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with the wealth of knowledge that she has, she has to be
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making a huge impact and motivating everyone to make
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these whole and happy living changes.
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Tell me how you practice at Mayo Clinic.
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You are a clinical pharmacist, you are an entrepreneur.
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How are you able to just intertwine everything so that we
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can speak to your audience.
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Talk to me, that we can speak to your audience.
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Talk to me.
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What do you find has been one of your most passionate speeches
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?
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That you realized that, oh my gosh, I know I had this plan,
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but I ended up realizing this is what this audience needs.
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Give me some insight.
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Speaker 1: My favorite speech is the art of achieving high-level
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wellness, the way that the speech is put together.
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I mean I share my story and really I take a mental and
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emotional approach, because it's what I'm most passionate about.
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If we can't really get to the root of really what's going on,
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we're not going to get real change.
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If you want real results, long-term, sustainable results,
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we've got to get real.
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And one of the things that I love to talk about more than
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anything else and it's a research study that the whole
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world should know about it.
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It should be.
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You know, it shouldn't have taken me this long to learn
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about it.
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I don't know if you're familiar with it, but it's the ACEs
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trial.
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Oh, yes, okay, yeah.
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So I love to talk about the ACEs trial and I love to talk
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about why the ACEs trial ever came to be.
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So we go back to an internal medicine doctor at Kaiser
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Permanente who puts together an obesity clinic, right, and he
00:20:17
has thousands of people coming into this obesity clinic and he
00:20:22
starts recognizing why are people dropping out of the
00:20:25
program once they start being successful at losing weight?
00:20:28
You know, it's like blowing his mind, like why is this
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happening?
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So he becomes determined to figure it out and he starts
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interviewing people.
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He interviews 286 individuals that had dropped out of his
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program, 286 individuals that had dropped out of his program,
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and he interviewed them for a long time.
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He wasn't really getting answers until he changed his
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specific, his questions, to specifically talk about weight,
00:20:51
and he would ask questions like how much did you weigh when you,
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you know, when you finished junior high school?
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How much did you weigh when you started high school?
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Or how much did you weigh when you went on your first date?
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And then the question that really rang true and started to
00:21:04
get answers for him was how much did you weigh when you were
00:21:07
first sexually active?
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And the answers that came were awful.
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They're answering 30 pounds, 40 pounds.
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I was 50 pounds when I was first sexually active and the
00:21:18
reason was is because they were being sexually abused as
00:21:20
children.
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Now this physician had only had one patient in his entire
00:21:26
career that he knew had been sexually assaulted as a child,
00:21:29
and yet almost every single one of these 286 individuals was
00:21:33
telling them the exact same thing.
00:21:35
So obesity for these people wasn't a problem, it was their
00:21:39
solution, because obesity kept them safe and they were
00:21:42
overlooked.
00:21:43
Nobody was looking at them, nobody wanted them.
00:21:46
Nobody wanted to attack them or abuse them.
00:21:49
It was their safety net.
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And when they started to lose weight, they were uncomfortable,
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they were scared.
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The trauma comes back, so they quit and they go back and gain
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the weight.
00:22:00
So they quit and they go back and gain the weight.
00:22:02
So this is what actually led to the ACEs trial of what do we
00:22:05
actually go through in our childhood, what traumatic events
00:22:09
do we go through?
00:22:10
And, mind you, anyone who's listening that's like, oh, I
00:22:13
didn't have any trauma.
00:22:14
80%, 87% of the average population falls into this study
00:22:22
.
00:22:22
Everybody does Almost everyone does that we've been through
00:22:26
things in our childhood and that they directly correlate to our
00:22:30
health outcomes later on in life .
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So if this is causing us to develop our current health
00:22:37
condition, then we've got to go back and say what do I got to
00:22:41
work on?
00:22:41
What do I have to work through?
00:22:42
What do I have to overcome?
00:22:44
How do I have to grow myself internally to the point that
00:22:48
these things are no longer affecting me because they're
00:22:51
manifesting in physical health?
00:22:53
So why do I focus so heavily on mental and emotional?
00:22:56
Well, it's the absolute, underlying reason of why they
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are where they are.
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We have to.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up.
00:23:03
I'm trying to see if I can find this the ACES test, the score
00:23:08
and the meaning that goes along with it.
00:23:10
Oh yeah, I was introduced to it when we had a workshop and, of
00:23:15
course, being a researcher even though I was a principal at the
00:23:18
time they had all of the administrators take this test.
00:23:22
We didn't share anything, but it was to give us the insight
00:23:26
because it was a social worker who was giving this, a licensed
00:23:29
social worker who was giving this staff development, and it
00:23:32
allowed people to to look into where they were and how it
00:23:36
impacts on how they are meeting the needs of their students, and
00:23:40
it was just really, really eye-opening to really see
00:23:44
everything and and to witness how they presented this
00:23:47
information.
00:23:47
Hopefully that, with you bringing this up, talking about
00:23:51
the trial and me just letting people know about the ACES quiz
00:23:54
and all, there's so much that's out there that brings you to
00:23:58
that pivotal point.
00:23:59
I'm going to be honest with you.
00:24:00
Listening to you here, I can truly imagine the impact that
00:24:05
you're giving to those that you're speaking to, because it's
00:24:10
got to go beyond.
00:24:11
It's a trauma, and when they talk about trauma, it's not just
00:24:15
abuse in that manner they're talking about holistically the
00:24:19
childhood trauma collectively.
00:24:21
Glad you brought that up.
00:24:22
I really really am.
00:24:23
You know, I know we've gone from you being a clinical
00:24:28
pharmacist, unfortunately, with your autoimmune disease and how
00:24:33
it pivoted you into where you're helping in a dramatic way.
00:24:38
I want to just ask you to just give maybe one or two tips of
00:24:43
how someone can meet their needs of weight loss, or where should
00:24:48
they go, how should they start In?
00:24:50
Speaker 1: terms of physical health or mental and emotional
00:24:54
health.
00:24:54
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're making it go tricky now.
00:24:56
Yeah, okay, so this is what we'll do.
00:25:01
We'll do one mental and one physical, okay, they go hand in
00:25:05
hand.
00:25:05
And I'm thinking of a lot of things.
00:25:07
I'm just curious now, what would you say to our audience.
00:25:10
Speaker 1: Honestly, one of my favorite tips to share in terms
00:25:14
of mental and emotional, is to start with food.
00:25:18
Start with a trigger.
00:25:19
Right, when you're going to food and you want to eat, you
00:25:23
pause and you think and you evaluate and you start asking
00:25:27
yourselves four questions.
00:25:28
The first question is am I hungry?
00:25:30
Okay, so you get home from work , you're exhausted.
00:25:32
The first thing that you do is you?
00:25:34
Okay.
00:25:35
So you get home from work, you're exhausted.
00:25:36
The first thing that you do is you go to the pantry.
00:25:39
Where are those cookies?
00:25:39
Where's that?
00:25:39
Where's that bag of chips?
00:25:40
Where's whatever?
00:25:40
Right?
00:25:40
So we pause and we ask ourselves am I hungry?
00:25:43
We check in and we find no, I'm not hungry.
00:25:47
So the next question we ask is well then, why am I going to
00:25:51
food?
00:25:52
Now, if we start asking why, then we kind of start digging
00:25:56
right, let's look back over the day, let's look back at work.
00:26:01
You know, okay, so I came home from work, I'm exhausted.
00:26:04
That's one thing.
00:26:05
Right, I'm feeling like I need energy, so I might be going to
00:26:09
food.
00:26:10
But stress, stress can be a trigger.
00:26:13
What did you, what did you have to deal with while you were at
00:26:16
work?
00:26:16
Did you have an interaction, you know, with a coworker or a
00:26:20
supervisor or your boss Did something, you know, did
00:26:23
something go wrong.
00:26:24
A lot of times we, you know, or we'll come home is like oh,
00:26:27
today was so hard, I deserve this, you know, I deserve a
00:26:31
treat for all of my hard work.
00:26:32
It could be any number of reasons, but we have to start
00:26:37
asking ourselves why.
00:26:38
Why am I doing this behavior?
00:26:40
And then the third question that I always have people ask is if
00:26:44
I'm not hungry but I feel like I need something, but it's not
00:26:48
food because I'm not hungry, then what do I really need?
00:26:51
But it's not food because I'm not hungry, then what do I
00:26:56
really need?
00:26:57
What is the true need?
00:26:57
Well, if I'm exhausted, I probably need to sit down and
00:27:01
rest.
00:27:01
I need to relax, I need to let my body recover.
00:27:02
If I'm stressed, what are some of the tools that we have that
00:27:05
we can use to help us to manage stress?
00:27:11
If you're sad, you're lonely, you're whatever, it is right.
00:27:14
What do I need?
00:27:15
Right, we're starting to check in with ourselves.
00:27:17
We're starting to learn how to show up for ourselves
00:27:19
emotionally.
00:27:20
And the fourth question is how do I actually meet that need?
00:27:24
This is when we actively start showing up for ourselves.
00:27:27
This is when we actually start relaxing instead of going for
00:27:32
food.
00:27:32
This is when we, you know, call a friend when we're sad instead
00:27:36
of, you know, shoveling food down our face.
00:27:38
You know, this is how we start going through this process of
00:27:44
recognizing a trigger, recognizing our actions and what
00:27:47
we're doing, and then starting to dig into why.
00:27:50
Why am I doing the things that I'm doing, and what do I
00:27:54
actually need, and how can I show up for myself and really
00:27:57
actually take care of my own?
00:27:59
Speaker 2: emotional needs.
00:27:59
All right, if there's a drop the mic, that's one for me.
00:28:02
Drop the mic y'all.
00:28:05
And the reason I say that is because I think, even though we
00:28:09
talked about just hitting the emotional, you hit physical too.
00:28:12
Yeah, I guess you're right, we hit them both.
00:28:15
We combined it in one.
00:28:16
Combined it in one Because it's your action of going to where
00:28:22
you're going to either the cupboard or the refrigerator, or
00:28:25
driving to the nearest fast food chain, because you're
00:28:29
driving home, you're stressed, you're tired and you go to the
00:28:31
fast food chain.
00:28:32
That's still all there.
00:28:34
It's a physical.
00:28:35
You can't get the food unless you move your body.
00:28:38
Well, then again, there are some people who help them in the
00:28:40
process, but we're talking about the average Joe, and so
00:28:43
you hit all of it there.
00:28:44
I want to say this has been an amazing interview and I hope
00:28:49
that we can bring you back for when I deal with Ask the Expert,
00:28:53
because you have reached so many areas of our lives, knowing
00:28:59
that many of us do not want to be on medication but we are and
00:29:02
how to use the medication appropriately, which is
00:29:05
medication management, but yet still looking at our healthy
00:29:08
selves, making sure we're looking at ourselves
00:29:10
holistically, mentally and physically and with your impact
00:29:16
of whole and happy living.
00:29:17
It's literally cumulative.
00:29:19
You're doing it all for everyone and I am very pleased
00:29:24
to know that you're out here working this job the way that
00:29:29
you're doing.
00:29:29
I know it wasn't the plan that you had in place, but the
00:29:33
direction in which you're going.
00:29:35
You're meeting so many needs.
00:29:37
I want to say thank you.
00:29:38
I got to say thank you, oh thank you, I appreciate that.
00:29:42
Cold-pressed juices.
00:29:43
I believe in them.
00:29:44
I don't drink them a lot but I do drink them.
00:29:46
I have my own cold-pressed machine because I'm a green kind
00:29:49
of person.
00:29:49
I love apple, celery.
00:29:52
You know anything that can be green.
00:29:54
Add some regular greens in it, some kale make it all good Touch
00:29:58
of, you know, coconut.
00:29:59
Do you have a favorite cold press juice?
00:30:04
Speaker 1: I mean, I?
00:30:04
I'm a huge fan of orange juice, honestly, Like you, give me
00:30:08
fresh orange juice.
00:30:09
I'm I'm a happy woman.
00:30:13
Speaker 2: That is awesome, because it holds a lot of
00:30:15
vitamins there too.
00:30:16
Speaker 1: It does you give me that vitamin C and I, you know.
00:30:20
Speaker 2: That is awesome.
00:30:21
I just want to say thank you so much, Whitney.
00:30:23
If they want to get in touch with you, what is the best way
00:30:25
to do so?
00:30:26
Speaker 1: They can visit my website, mywholeandhappylifecom.
00:30:30
Or, if they want to message me, they can certainly get onto my
00:30:34
Instagram and just send me.
00:30:35
You know, just send me a message and that's my whole and
00:30:38
happy life with an at symbol in front of it.
00:30:41
So just remember my whole and happy life, either with acom or
00:30:46
an at in front of it, and you'll be able to get ahold of us.
00:30:48
Speaker 2: That statement's like an affirmation.
00:30:49
It is.
00:30:50
Speaker 1: My whole and happy life Automatically they're going
00:30:51
to get into it.
00:30:51
Speaker 2: That's like an affirmation it is A whole and
00:30:53
happy life, Automatically.
00:30:54
They're going to get into it.
00:30:55
That's like an affirmation my whole and happy life.
00:30:57
I love it.
00:30:58
I love it, I love it.
00:30:59
So thank you once again for joining us on Cold Press
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Conversations, dr Prude, thank you so much and, once again, if
00:31:05
you want to get in touch with her, go ahead, find her on
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