Join us for an enlightening session with Dr. Candice Holmes, a highly regarded chiropractor and natural brain transformation expert, who shares her compelling journey into the world of neurofeedback therapy. Inspired by her daughter's ADHD diagnosis, Dr. Holmes explored non-invasive and drug-free treatment options, leading to profound changes in her daughter's life and her own professional path. Her story is one of resilience and dedication, discovering alternatives to traditional treatments and paving the way for a more holistic approach to mental health.
We also take a heartfelt look at the challenges and triumphs of parenting autistic children. Through candid personal anecdotes, our discussion touches on the emotional journey of understanding and meeting the needs of neurodiverse kids. Dr. Holmes sheds light on the tools, resources, and community connections, such as neurofeedback, that can support parents and children alike. By spotlighting unique strengths and potentials, this conversation serves as a comforting reminder that parents are not alone and there are hopeful paths to explore.
In our final segment, Dr. Holmes discusses the intriguing connection between neurofeedback and chiropractic care. With insights into how these disciplines converge through the understanding of the nervous system, she explains how they can be leveraged together for comprehensive cognitive wellness. By sharing her motivations for writing "Transform Your Brain with Neurofeedback," listeners gain access to a wealth of knowledge on how this technology can benefit conditions like ADHD and anxiety. Whether you're a parent, a professional, or someone curious about cognitive health, this episode offers valuable perspectives on achieving mental well-being.
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Speaker 1: You know, I remember she used to apologize to me for
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having ADHD.
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I said, sweetie.
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I said this is not something that you can help.
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I said there's no need to apologize.
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She said mommy said I know, you know you're so tired and you
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know I'm trying to help you and I'm trying to help myself.
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And I just, I, just you know.
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I said sweetie.
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I said do you realize what a blessing it is that you, that
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your brain functions this way?
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I said research, like if there's something she wants to
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find out about, oh, down to the nth degree, but if it's
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something she's not interested in, eh.
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But you know how valuable those skills are.
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And then I told her too.
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I said had you not had this diagnosis, I would not have
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learned about neurofeedback, which helped you, and now I get
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to help other people too.
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I said this is like the greatest blessing.
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Dr Candice Holmes is a distinguished chiropractor and
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natural brain transformation specialist For over 14 years of
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experience, currently practicing in the Atlanta metropolitan
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area.
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She holds a doctor of chiropractic degree from Life
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University and a Bachelor of Science in Biology Pre-Med from
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Xavier University in Louisiana, where she was an active member
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of Alpha Epsilon Delta Pre-Medical Honor Fraternity,
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and proudly she belongs to Alpha Kappa, alpha Sorority
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Incorporated as a certified BrainCore neurofeedback
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practitioner at BrainCore of Duluth since 2016,.
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She specializes in non-invasive , drug-free treatments for
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conditions such as migraines, anxiety, depression, add, adhd,
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autism spectrum disorders, ptsd and more.
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She's also the owner of Dr Holmes Chiro2U, a corporate
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house call chiropractic service that delivers quality care
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directly to clients at their offices, workplaces and gyms.
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Additionally, she hosts the podcast Reimagine you, where she
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revolutionizes mental health with neurofeedback.
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Dr Holmes is an active leader in the professional community
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and her dedication is to improve the lives of her patients
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through innovative and accessible healthcare solutions,
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as it is reflected in her ongoing commitment to education,
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community service and leadership in her field.
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I now present you to Dr Candice Holmes.
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Speaker 1: So my original intention was to go into sports
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medicine, and when I was at Xavier, the valedictorian, a
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couple of classes ahead of us, came back and he said I barely
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eat, I'm not sleeping.
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He said my mom has to do my laundry, my dad cooks and I'm
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thinking, eventually I want to get married, have children.
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I said so that's not going to work.
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So I went to the library to see what other options I had, and
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chiropractic came up, and I was especially drawn to the
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non-medications part of it, because even growing up I did
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not like taking medication.
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My mother never understood why I would suffer if I had cramps
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or anything.
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So that was a good fit for me, and so I decided that I was
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going to go home that summer and find chiropractors in my local
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area who looked like me and see what their experiences were, and
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then to ask them where would they suggest that I go to school
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.
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And I did that with three chiropractors.
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One of them is I'm five foot four, she's five one and I'm
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thinking, whoa, she can do it, I can do it.
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And all three of them suggested that I go to the chiropractic
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school here in Atlanta, and so that's how I ended up here.
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Oh, that is awesome.
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Speaker 2: So I know that you are currently practicing, but
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your practice is a little bit different.
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You're doing two things, which is amazing.
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I'm like, okay, where did you find this time?
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Speaker 1: So you have two businesses Okay.
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Speaker 2: And I know that you do.
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You have two businesses, which is amazing.
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You have the BrainCore Neurofeedback, because you're a
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petitioner for that, and you also have the Dr Holmes Chiro2U.
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So how do you?
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Number one, how do you find the time, because I know you got a
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family?
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But, number two, how do you intertwine the love of both of
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them and still meet the needs of all your patients?
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you.
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So I've been a chiropractor for 25 years.
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My daughter, my oldest daughter , was diagnosed with ADHD when
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she was seven, and in chiropractic school you know, we
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try to stay away from drugs as often as possible because we
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know the body can heal itself.
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So, honestly, when she was diagnosed, I was, I was in
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denial.
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I didn't want to accept the diagnosis.
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I thought it was just a catch-all.
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They didn't know what else to call it, and so, since I was in
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denial, I wasn't actively looking for ways to help her.
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I just knew I wasn't going to put her on any medication.
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So time went on and I was going through one of our magazines
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chiropractic magazines and by this time she was 13.
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And there was a article that talked about neurofeedback
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therapy and how it was drug-free and non-invasive.
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The results can last up to 30 years, and ADHD, anxiety and
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depression were focused on that article and I'm like, oh my gosh
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, like there's something that can help her that doesn't
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include medication.
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I was like, what is that about?
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So that's how I came to find out about neurofeedback therapy
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and did some research on it and decided to invest in the system
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and to help my daughter.
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I honestly didn't really care about anybody else.
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She was my focus because she was struggling.
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I mean she was struggling so much academically I didn't think
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she would go to college.
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She lacked focus and attention.
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I mean it was socially awkward think she would go to college.
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She liked focus and attention.
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I mean it was socially awkward.
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She, it was not great.
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She was taking about five hours a night to do homework and you
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know it was just me.
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I was already divorced by the time she was diagnosed, so it
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was a lot.
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It was a lot.
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And so working with her and how she is now, I mean she's great.
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Now Let me just say that she's wonderful.
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Now she's in college.
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She is in her junior year of college and she is studying to
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be an environmental chemist.
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She wants to save the animals and the planet and I couldn't be
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more thrilled.
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She's on the president's list and dean's list just repeatedly.
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So neurofeedback just really helped her tremendously.
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The transformation with her is just phenomenal.
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Speaker 2: You know I had a chance to.
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We're going to come back from the Chira to you but I had a
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chance to listen.
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You stated in something that I was reading or watching, because
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I do read and watch a lot about my guests.
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It takes about 30 sessions, is it?
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Speaker 1: 30 sessions of neurofeedback before the changes
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really start happening.
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Correct, and that's for a person that's a straightforward
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case.
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So no other complications or comorbidities, but typically
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about 30 on average.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Wow, okay, all right, it's pretty interesting.
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I wish we could have people come into your world to see how
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you did it.
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I just watched one of your videos and I thought it was
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pretty neat how you showed the cap, and it was really neat
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seeing the cap and how you were explaining exactly.
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You know, this is where we start, and there was something
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about the way that you explained it allowed me to gain even more
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insight.
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You gave a good analogy of it, but this is how we start.
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This is how we get the data, this is how we get the research,
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this is how we know where you are, and we have to have a
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baseline, and I think that is so important, just collectively in
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medicine.
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Collectively, because if you don't have a baseline somewhere
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you're going to go.
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And it's just so neat how you showed the cap and gave the
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insight of it, and I encourage anyone to go to her website to
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learn more about that part.
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But it's really cool.
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I loved it.
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I loved it.
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How do you help children become comfortable in that type of
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atmosphere?
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So that's where I'm taking it.
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How do you?
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help children become comfortable in that atmosphere, because I
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think a lot of parents who have children who have ADHD or ADD
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they're at a point where they want to use something other than
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the medication, the pill form, and thank goodness for that Take
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them away from some of the pharmaceuticals.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and thank God for that.
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Most people don't understand or realize that after the
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medication wears off, guess what ?
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Those symptoms return.
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The medicines are a band-aid.
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They typically have side effects where people don't sleep
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well and or they have a loss of appetite.
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And so I mean, it's just, yes, so getting patients comfortable,
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especially the children, I have the parents come in with the
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children first of all, so that's helpful, and then I explain to
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them what's going on.
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I don't just go in there and say, okay, we're going to throw
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this cap on no.
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I don't.
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I said this is a cap, this is what it does it doesn't hurt.
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This is an ear clip.
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Let me show you what that feels like.
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I'm going to put this paste on here.
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Let me show you what that feels like.
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My daughter wants me to tell everybody that this feels cold
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to her, so I'm going to tell you't think it's cold.
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She's like well, you need to tell.
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I said, okay, everybody has different sensitivities and so I
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make sure to explain everything .
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It's important that we talk to our children and explain what it
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is that we're doing.
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We don't just go in.
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I grew up in a thing where seeing not hurt, so I try to do
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a little bit.
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I don't want to say better.
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I try to be more conscious of they're person.
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Speaker 2: You know they would like to know what's going on.
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Speaker 1: I have also.
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I have a weighted blanket there to make them feel comfortable.
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I have eye masks that I use sometimes because part of the
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brain mapping requires them to have their eyes closed.
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I've had autistic patients who do better with the mask because,
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just like, concentrating on keeping their eyes closed is a
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challenge for them.
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I remember I had one gentleman, one patient, who he was a
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teenager.
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He literally just put his hands , his fingers on his, on his
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eyes, eyelids, to keep them shut and I was like that works too.
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You know, like that works, yeah , yes.
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So once you explain everything and what's going on and tell
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them it doesn't hurt, you know then, and then their parents are
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right there, it's pretty easy, okay.
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Speaker 2: So you've mentioned the weighted blanket, the
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blindfold, and weighted blankets are big Woo.
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Speaker 1: Yes, goodness, and they're big.
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Speaker 2: Even adults are using them.
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Yes, even adults are using them .
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Yes, I just kind of want to go a little bit deeper with the
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bioneurofeedback.
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Can you go just one step further, now that we have it, so
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that parents understand it?
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Because this is what I want to do.
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I want parents to understand that there are naturopathic ways
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and other integrative forms of medicine that can help children
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who have ADHD, add or autism, and that's where you're focusing
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on.
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Speaker 1: Ptsd could be another one, oh goodness, depression,
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anxiety.
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I mean, we could go on a list.
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Speaker 2: Everything starts in the brain.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the long and short of it.
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Everything starts in the brain.
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I use it for stress relief.
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My dad had concussions when he played football in college, and
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so traumatic brain injury.
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Okay, so, just as we're sitting here, what's going on is our
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brains have frequencies that are just you just can't see the
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brainwaves as we're sitting here , like what's going on is, our
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brains have frequencies that are just.
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You just can't see the brain waves as we're sitting here
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because they are invisible to us .
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However, they are always there.
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So there are ranges of frequencies that your brain
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functions well with and there are frequencies where it doesn't
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function so well.
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When it doesn't function so well, that's when you start
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having symptoms from conditions like ADHD or anxiety, depression
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, migraines, ptsd.
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So the goal of neurofeedback is to get the brain back into
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those frequencies where it functions well and when it's
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there, those symptoms disappear.
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So when my daughter had her first brain mapping, the
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category that ADHD and autism is under it's called a
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dysfunctional category, is what I call it Hers was 10 out of 10,
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like, oh yes, the possibility that your brain is having this
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kind of challenge is there.
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And then, after she completed sessions and we did a follow-up
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brain mapping because, just like you mentioned, we have a
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baseline she went from 100 to under 20, which is where the
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functioning well is, and so all those symptoms just went away
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and I was just like whoa, like I noticed some things.
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I remember my youngest daughter said mommy, you don't yell at
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her like you used to, and I was like, oh yeah, I haven't been
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yelling at her like, and I didn't have to help with
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homework anymore.
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It was like whoa, like this is great, so no more calls from the
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schools.
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It was just phenomenal.
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Whoa, like this is great, you know.
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So, whoa, no more calls from the schools.
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It was just phenomenal.
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And she, her confidence, you know, went up and up because she
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was doing better in school and she could understand and you
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know it wasn't a challenge, she wasn't staying up till midnight
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every night to do homework.
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That homework was getting done faster too.
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So it was just like whoa, like this is phenomenal.
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Speaker 2: Good night, that is just seriously, it's like an eye
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opener An eye opener is huge.
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Speaker 1: And the thing that I have come to realize is when you
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change one person's experience in a family, it changes
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everybody's experience in that family oh, everybody.
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Because the focus is on that person who was having some
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challenges, as I don't say as it should.
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Because the focus is on that person who was having some
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challenges.
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I don't say as it should, it's just I have to say I'm just so
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thankful that my younger daughter was gifted and
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accelerated so she didn't require as much of my energy,
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because it's a lot.
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And I had an autistic family in yesterday and they were just
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lamenting about how their relatives just don't understand
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what they're going through and I said, oh, I get it.
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I said because if you're not in it, you don't get it.
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My daughter's own psychologist is a sorority sister of mine and
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we went on vacation with her and her family.
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They have a daughter and you know so it's the three girls.
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They were in their room giggling you know how kids
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giggle and the adults were up and we were talking and they
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said how have you been doing this by yourself?
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Like you have to redirect her and tell her how to do something
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, explain it 12 times.
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And I'm like, yeah, I said you know you have her.
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You have her for an hour of that day, I have her for the
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other 23.
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And I was like, how do you not understand this?
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I didn't understand, I didn't get it until I thought, wait a
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minute.
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When she goes home, her daughter doesn't have those
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challenges.
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You know her day is over Like it's good.
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I'm still going to my second job now trying to help her
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because I want her to be successful.
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And you know, patients sometimes can wear thin.
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After you've been working all day and now you have to spend
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another five hours with a student who's just not, it's
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just not clicking, you know the processing is just not clicking.
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So woo.
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And we're always I've always been more patient with other
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people's children than I am with my own, and I think that's the
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case with most parents, you know .
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So.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say that's most parents.
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Woo Woo, that's most parents.
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Speaker 1: Woo and.
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Speaker 2: Okay, take your deep breath.
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Speaker 1: Yep, I can do this.
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I can do this and she needs me.
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You know, who else does she have?
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You know.
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So you know, and I just want to save parents from that 13 years
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of just woo.
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And you know, think about for me, think about for sweetie.
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I said this is not something that you can help.
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I said there's no need to apologize and she said mommy
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said I know, you know you're so tired and you know I'm trying to
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help you and I and I'm trying to help myself and I, just, I,
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just you know.
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I said sweetie.
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I said do you realize what a blessing it is that you, that
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your brain functions this way?
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I said research, like if there's something she wants to
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find out about, oh, down to the nth degree, but if it's
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something she's not interested in, but you know how valuable
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those skills are.
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And then I told her too.
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I said had you not had this diagnosis, I would not have
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learned about neurofeedback, which helped you.
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And now I get to help other people too.
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I said this is like the greatest blessing.
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However, when you're going through it, you don't see it.
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You don't see it.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you don't.
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But what you're giving, you're giving hope to so many parents
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right now, and that's what that's.
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The purpose of Cold Press Conversations is to bring
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experts, those who are in the medical and health science
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fields, to give you a piece and educate you of several options
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that are out there, not saying one is better than the other.
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You have to research, you have to know who you're working with,
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even if it's for yourself, to find out what is best for you,
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the avenue, and that's why I have Dr Holmes here.
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It's because I'm a former teacher, former principal.
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I have seen parents change diets, tried weighted blankets
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in the classroom, tried the wiggle ball, tried the foot
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pedal thing that you have.
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Speaker 1: Yep Fidget spinners.
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Speaker 2: Fidget spinners, yes, the ball in the hand.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: I could go through the whole list.
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Litany, I mean, it is nonstop Pencil grip where they can move
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it over and over again.
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Yes, you know, yes, trying over and over again.
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Speaker 1: Yes, you know, yes, trying to harness that energy.
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Speaker 2: Right, Because you're trying to get rid of that
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energy.
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You're trying to do what it takes.
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Or you say can you move my child to the back of the
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classroom so that they can stand and get some of that energy out
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?
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Yes, and so what we're doing right now, Dr Holmes, we're
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probably helping some parent right now who's like, oh my
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about these things.
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You know, and that's the purpose I want parents to be
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able to feel there is a who saw moment for themselves where they
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can take a break and learn what other avenues are available out
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there.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what you're doing.
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Get rid of that guilt.
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I went to Catholic school.
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From first through eighth grade , we went outside.
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Every day, unless it was raining, we were outside.
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Oh my gosh, that's where you get the wiggles out.
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You get the wiggles out when you're outside.
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You get your sunshine, you get your vitamin D from being
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outside.
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You get to interact with your classmates, you learn how to
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make up a game, have imagination , get your brain to have new
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neural pathways formed.
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It's some of those basic things that we used to do.
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I really feel need to be put back into the curriculum.
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I just like taking I'm still not over there taking nap time
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from kindergarteners.
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I'm like the brain still functions, the brain still
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progresses and grows at the same rate.
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Why would you take that away?
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Like I don't.
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I don't get it and I'm wondering why we are where we are, you
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know when, when adults need breaks, like how many times
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would we like to get out at lunchtime and go so we can reset
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and refresh ourselves?
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So why would you think a child wouldn't require that?
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I mean some like I was a substitute teacher for four
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years in a in a in middle schools here and there's 20
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minutes from the time you leave the class to get the food, eat
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and go back up.
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And I said so when are they going outside?
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They're like, oh, they don't go outside.
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What do you mean?
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They don't go outside.
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Basic things.
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Speaker 2: Things have changed so drastically, and I think
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that's the reason why I wanted you here, Because we're focusing
00:18:52
on the child right now.
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But you also help relieve and help the parent too.
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The professional with your other business yeah, it's called
00:19:04
Dr Holmes Cairo to you, a corporate house call service.
00:19:07
I love it.
00:19:09
You deliver quality care to clients.
00:19:11
I'm talking about parents too.
00:19:13
Offices, workplaces, gyms, whatever.
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Talk to us about it, Cause I mean, parents are like okay, if
00:19:18
I'm in the Atlanta area, let me learn about her.
00:19:21
Speaker 1: Well, listen, and that's the thing.
00:19:22
Chiropractic is 15% of my practice.
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Now the major focus is on neural feedback.
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I did offer house calls at uh, right before the pandemic
00:19:31
happened, just because I had so many patients who were unable to
00:19:35
come to the office because, oh, a meeting came up, oh, I got to
00:19:38
pick my wife up from here, oh I got to pick my son up from
00:19:40
practice, oh, I have to do this.
00:19:41
And I'm like, what if I could just bring my entire office to
00:19:44
where they are?
00:19:45
Like, oh my gosh, that'd be so great If you could just come
00:19:48
here at like six or seven, and then that we'll be able to all
00:19:51
the families here, you can adjust everybody and like, we're
00:19:54
great for the next day, you know so.
00:19:56
And then also going into corporations and taking care of
00:19:59
those patients.
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So I've had people especially who would stay at home to work,
00:20:04
work from home.
00:20:04
And so they're like, oh yes, please come.
00:20:06
And they, you know, write me into their schedule, their
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logistics wouldn't change.
00:20:10
And so most people think that chiropractors just crack bones.
00:20:13
Chiropractors focus on the nervous system.
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The nervous system just happens to be surrounded by bones.
00:20:18
So when the nerves and the impulses from your brain go down
00:20:23
your spinal cord to the rest of your body without being
00:20:26
interfered with at all, no misalignments or anything, guess
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what?
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Everything functions well and you're healthy.
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You think clearly.
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And so that's why adding neurofeedback to my practice was
00:20:37
so easy is because, oh my gosh, the brain, the spinal cord,
00:20:44
let's, let's take care of the brain.
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Let's, let's start.
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You know where it all begins.
00:20:46
So that's how I integrated the two.
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And so now with my neurofeedback patients, one of
00:20:52
the questions I ask I said do you have a chiropractor?
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If they do, great, keep going to your chiropractor.
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And you'll be so surprised at how many parents see the
00:20:59
chiropractor but they don't take their kids or the kids don't
00:21:02
get adjusted.
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I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:21:03
So why are you keeping all this goodness for yourself but
00:21:07
you're not letting your children get adjusted?
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What's up with that?
00:21:10
My children have been adjusted since they were hours old.
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My first daughter was eight hours old.
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My second daughter was three hours old.
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Little people get little adjustments.
00:21:18
I don't adjust an infant like I adjust a toddler like I adjust
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a teenager like I adjust an adult, like I adjust an elderly
00:21:26
patient.
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They all have different adjustments.
00:21:27
And most people don't realize is that when children are born,
00:21:31
doctors don't just sit there and catch a baby.
00:21:35
Typically they're pulling, twisting and pulling out.
00:21:38
So that's a lot of trauma to a young spine.
00:21:42
So that's where the chiropractic comes in, and the
00:21:47
children are better able to benefit from being adjusted
00:21:50
because they haven't been through as many traumas as
00:21:52
adults have, so they can hold their adjustments longer.
00:21:54
Just think about how many times a toddler learns how to walk and
00:21:57
how many times they fall, and so their spines get jammed every
00:22:00
time they fall.
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So, yes, that's one of the things too.
00:22:04
Just get your children adjusted , my goodness, like they will.
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Just, I was 22 when I received my first adjustment and I played
00:22:11
sports and I'm thinking, man, had I been adjusted when I was
00:22:14
younger, like I, maybe I would have had more speed on my ball.
00:22:17
You know, I was a, I was a pitcher.
00:22:18
You know, maybe my jump shot could have, you know, dropped a
00:22:20
little.
00:22:20
You know, yeah, it's okay, it's okay.
00:22:25
Speaker 2: You know our parents?
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No, no, but I'm glad you helped explain it.
00:22:29
I think people need to understand that it starts with
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the brain and we have our nervous system, which is there,
00:22:36
and it's all interconnected.
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And that's the reason why I wanted to bring both together,
00:22:40
because they're probably like why is she doing
00:22:42
bio-neurofeedback?
00:22:43
She's a doctor of chiropractic.
00:22:45
Speaker 1: Well, they are all the same, everything's connected
00:22:49
, everything's connected, everything's everything's
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connected.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I do want to ask you what do you find as
00:22:58
the most joy when you are working?
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And and the reason I'm saying joy, I'm not saying, you know,
00:23:04
adjusting as a joy, or neurofeedback as well.
00:23:07
I'm talking about like the outcome.
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Oh, what is it that you see where I'm going?
00:23:11
Speaker 1: that's so easy that is so easy, the transformations
00:23:15
like seeing especially a child fidgeting and not being able to
00:23:18
sit still to get the brain mapping done.
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And then they've performed that in my program and then they're
00:23:24
getting, they're getting their follow-up brain session and then
00:23:26
brain mapping and they'll finish it.
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And then I'll ask, I'll say so, do you notice anything
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different from this brain mapping from the first?
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And one kid was like, oh my gosh, Dr Holmes, I was able to
00:23:39
sit through this.
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I wasn't moving around a lot.
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I said, no, you weren't.
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And he was like you know.
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And his parents were like you know, because we needed that
00:23:48
weighted blanket the first time.
00:23:49
We needed that little fidget spinner, we needed some help,
00:23:52
you know.
00:23:52
And I remember there was one patient.
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I was like, oh my gosh, I worked for that brain mapping
00:23:56
because, whoo poor heart, you know, I was thinking their brain
00:24:00
just needs so much help.
00:24:01
And it just, you know, it's just, it's just seeing them
00:24:04
struggle and then seeing them no longer struggling and then just
00:24:09
the stories.
00:24:09
I just, I just love it, I just love it.
00:24:11
I had one patient who was struggling in math.
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Well, he was failing everything , he was in a private school and
00:24:17
he came in one day this is when we just had because my programs
00:24:21
you can do it at home.
00:24:22
Now, prior to you being able to do them at home, he came in and
00:24:29
he was like doc.
00:24:29
He said let me tell you what happened.
00:24:30
I was like, oh, he said I was in class and the teacher was
00:24:32
explaining math, whatever he said, and I got it.
00:24:34
He said I got it the first time .
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He said I was able to finish my homework.
00:24:38
I was over there helping my friends and everything.
00:24:39
And I said you think you know, and so so he finished his
00:24:49
program and um.
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I said okay.
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I said you know the semester is going to be over.
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You know, um, after your program is over, I said so I'm
00:24:56
going to call, follow up and see what happened with your, with
00:24:58
your grades.
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I want to know.
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Called, spoke to his mom.
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She said he passed everything.
00:25:02
I said what did he get in math?
00:25:03
He got an 88.
00:25:04
I said oh, I want him to get that A.
00:25:06
I wanted that A.
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I said I'll take an 88.
00:25:09
Speaker 2: I'll take an 88.
00:25:10
Speaker 1: And so his parents were thrilled, his dad
00:25:13
especially, because it was a private school.
00:25:14
They were investing a pretty penny in his academics and so he
00:25:19
, just he, was great.
00:25:20
So it's those transformations, that's what I live for, that's
00:25:23
what brings me joy.
00:25:24
Speaker 2: Okay, so you brought something up that came to me and
00:25:26
I'm thinking somebody may have the same question I'd have.
00:25:29
So, once you have the 30 sessions, does it end there, or
00:25:32
do they receive some tools to use after they've had the
00:25:35
biofeedback?
00:25:38
Speaker 1: So 30 sessions on average is about how many are
00:25:41
required to start seeing the changes in the brain function.
00:25:45
I mean, that's for a straightforward case, so it may
00:25:49
take longer if someone has autism or ADHD or something.
00:25:52
I just want to make sure that's clear because people think, oh,
00:25:53
I just need 30 sessions.
00:25:54
No, no that's okay.
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That's where it starts.
00:26:00
So I do give them some tips and some ways to enhance their
00:26:05
neurofeedback sessions, and part of it, one of the things, is
00:26:10
what I call a digital detox.
00:26:11
So let's get rid of all those devices at least an hour before
00:26:15
you go to bed and then get outside, and it's simple things.
00:26:19
It's simple things Sleeping at least seven hours and making
00:26:23
sure that you're drinking your water.
00:26:24
A lot of people don't drink enough water.
00:26:26
Water is what flushes your system out.
00:26:27
It flushes all the toxins out that you're drinking your water.
00:26:29
A lot of people don't drink enough water.
00:26:29
Water is what flushes your system out.
00:26:30
It flushes all the toxins out.
00:26:30
If you're not drinking water and you're well, I'm from
00:26:32
Detroit, so I say pop.
00:26:33
If you're drinking pop or soda, your body's not made of that,
00:26:38
so it's important to do that.
00:26:39
So, yes, they get those extra tips and suggestions and support
00:26:47
from me.
00:26:48
I mean, I've had a patient even tell me.
00:26:50
He said you know, I wouldn't have done so well without your
00:26:52
unwavering support, because it's frustrating.
00:26:54
It's frustrating when you're starting something new With the
00:26:58
sessions.
00:26:59
You're watching something on a PC, so it's through a streaming
00:27:03
device, so whichever streaming company that you have, and when
00:27:08
your brain is in the correct frequency, you'll see what
00:27:11
you're watching, like you regularly would.
00:27:12
It's bright, you hear it well.
00:27:13
When your brain is not, then the screen will start to fade
00:27:16
and you don't hear it as well.
00:27:17
So let's say you're trying to watch your favorite program and
00:27:20
the screen is fading and you're not hearing it well.
00:27:22
You're like oh my gosh, like what is it?
00:27:24
And I remember that particular patient telling me he said every
00:27:26
time that screen fades and the volume goes down, it just
00:27:29
reminds me of how messed up my brain is.
00:27:31
I said, oh, I said I can understand.
00:27:34
I said, and this is the beginning, once your brain knows
00:27:37
how to function, once your brain gets it, then guess what?
00:27:40
It's going to be brighter and brighter.
00:27:42
I said just got to hang in there.
00:27:43
Yeah, give yourself a break, give yourself some grace.
00:27:54
You know who tries anything new and does it well the first time?
00:27:56
Nobody, no one, nobody.
00:27:56
You know, if they say they do what you did, they're not
00:27:58
telling the truth.
00:27:58
That's just, that's just brass tacks.
00:27:59
So, um, he was able to get better and better.
00:28:01
He's like oh, okay, yes, and you know so.
00:28:03
Then now I mean, he had 13 years of having headaches every
00:28:06
day migraine headaches every day .
00:28:08
For 13 years he was missing out on family vacations.
00:28:11
He would go, but he would spend more time in the hotel room or
00:28:15
the Airbnb room than with his family, because he just broke my
00:28:18
heart and then his brain started changing, his migraines
00:28:22
started decreasing, and even the intensity I mean he, just he's
00:28:27
13 years.
00:28:28
And even the intensity.
00:28:28
I mean he, he just he's 13 years.
00:28:29
And I said you're pleasant, I said I would be a raving, not so
00:28:32
great person.
00:28:33
I don't even want to say the word, but I get a little slight,
00:28:35
mild headache and I'm upset.
00:28:37
Speaker 2: So I can't imagine a migraine every day.
00:28:39
Speaker 1: And and even just like on a Zoom.
00:28:42
He was one of my national patients and so we do a virtual
00:28:47
communication.
00:28:47
And the first time we met everything was dark behind him,
00:28:52
because lights aren't great for those who have migraines.
00:28:55
And then we did this follow-up and I said I see some light, I
00:28:59
see some light.
00:28:59
Back there he was like what I said light?
00:29:01
I said you remember you were in darkness when we first met.
00:29:04
He was like, oh, I was, wasn't I?
00:29:06
He had gotten so used to it he didn't even see it, you know.
00:29:09
So, just pointing out those little wins, you know, to people
00:29:15
, and then seeing those transformations, that's what
00:29:17
brings me joy.
00:29:17
Changing the life, I mean that's life change.
00:29:19
No feedback is life changing.
00:29:21
It changed my life, just my daughter's life, our whole
00:29:23
family's life.
00:29:24
So that's.
00:29:24
You just can't put a price on that.
00:29:27
Speaker 2: Well, before I even send off, I just want to say you
00:29:33
know what everyone I hopefully these questions will help you
00:29:34
because ultimately, she gave you not just her background and her
00:29:35
experience, she also explained the current practice of what
00:29:38
she's doing with the biofeedback and how it connects to her
00:29:41
chiropractic her knowledge, because chiropractors are
00:29:46
focusing on the nerve.
00:29:47
They have to know the nerves.
00:29:47
They have to know the human anatomy and physiology of
00:29:50
everything, the pathophysiology of how things work.
00:29:53
They have to understand the physiology of everything.
00:29:55
We can go on the history, the meaning and the behind stages of
00:30:01
it, and so that's the reason why she wanted us to understand
00:30:05
the research behind of what's going on and how it helps.
00:30:08
She even talked about the frequencies, and I just want to
00:30:09
say thank you so much, dr Holmes , for explaining all of that to
00:30:13
us.
00:30:14
I just wanted to give them just a quick recap on it because I
00:30:17
think it's pivotal for them to understand that this is
00:30:20
something that many homes are taking hold of and are feeling
00:30:26
frustrated and they're exhausted Children, even though they have
00:30:35
ADHD and you see that they may not be attentive.
00:30:36
When you finally get them to that point where they can
00:30:38
actually listen to you, they will tell you I'm tired.
00:30:40
Oh yes, they will tell you they want to be heard, and so what
00:30:43
you're doing is they're opening the door for them and that way
00:30:46
they can have not necessarily a normal life.
00:30:52
Speaker 1: I don't like using that term, but they can actually
00:30:53
live the way that they were meant to live yes, live their
00:30:55
life and give back to it.
00:30:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, just loving it, yeah.
00:30:57
Um, now I, before I go, I've got to let the community know
00:31:03
that we may have to have dr holmes come back, because I got
00:31:06
wind that this book that has been out here for some time is
00:31:11
like the book of all books, and I know you released it in July.
00:31:16
Okay, I got you but and I got wind of it I haven't read it.
00:31:21
I apologize and I let you know I love reading the book.
00:31:24
Speaker 1: Yes, can you just?
00:31:25
Speaker 2: explain to those of them who, before we go, just a
00:31:28
little cap Sure, Because she's going to give us a little
00:31:30
insight of something that she has.
00:31:32
Even though she's been busy on one side, she's found a little
00:31:35
time to talk about something that is really pivotal.
00:31:37
Yes so my book is called thank you.
00:31:40
Speaker 1: My book is called Transform your Brain with
00:31:43
Neurofeedback Restore your Focus , reduce Anxious Thoughts and
00:31:47
Revitalize Depressed Moods.
00:31:48
I wrote this book so that the layperson would understand, get
00:31:52
a better understanding of what neurofeedback is, how it works,
00:31:55
and I included I think it's 10 case stories of what we call
00:31:59
aesthetic case studies, case stories of all the different
00:32:02
conditions that neurofeedback has helped with and all the
00:32:05
successes that my patients have had with it.
00:32:07
You won't have to consult a glossary to read this book.
00:32:10
My goal is just to bring awareness, bring awareness Again
00:32:14
.
00:32:14
This technology has been around for over 50 years and most
00:32:17
people have not ever heard of it , and I think that's a travesty.
00:32:20
So my goal is to bring it to the forefront and to just open
00:32:24
people's minds and give them another option, provide another
00:32:27
option for them to consider.
00:32:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I plan to get it, I think because I didn't
00:32:32
want to just give the whole book in the beginning.
00:32:34
I think people need to have background, some background
00:32:36
knowledge, some history, and then maybe I could just bring
00:32:39
you back to just help them understand the book just a
00:32:41
little bit more and how it connects.
00:32:44
I wanted to answer just some of the basic questions that people
00:32:48
would have.
00:32:48
And yes, the book is more in layman's terms so that everyone
00:32:53
can read it and understand it.
00:32:55
But sometimes getting that information for the forefront
00:32:58
kind of helps and they're like, oh, hold a second, it's piqued
00:33:00
my interest, let me go ahead and get her book.
00:33:02
Yeah, you do, it's human nature .
00:33:04
Speaker 1: You just need to Human nature Absolutely.
00:33:06
I appreciate that.
00:33:07
It's human nature for sure, for sure, yeah, yeah, definitely.
00:33:10
Speaker 2: So I just want to say thank you so much once again,
00:33:12
Dr Holmes, for just joining us on Cold Press Conversations.
00:33:16
I just want to say you have provided a wealth of information
00:33:20
that I hope many parents will be able to take heed of, even
00:33:23
adults who may need to take heed of this, because we do have
00:33:27
adults with ADHD, ADD, depression, anxiety, PTSD and
00:33:30
other symptoms.
00:33:31
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
00:33:32
What do you think those children go up to?
00:33:33
Speaker 2: I went down some of the lists.
00:33:34
Did I get some of the lists, Dr Holmes?
00:33:36
Speaker 1: You got the majority of them on the list, absolutely,
00:33:38
absolutely.
00:33:39
And I just wanted to also let you all know I have a national
00:33:43
program, I have a complimentary discovery call, so you can call
00:33:47
and set that up and just see if this is something because not
00:33:50
everybody is a candidate, so if you want to see if you are a
00:33:53
candidate, you can reach out to me.
00:33:55
My website is bookwithdrhcom, so bookwithdrhcom, any way that
00:34:09
you put it in, it will come to me, so you don't have to be in a
00:34:10
state of joy to benefit from from neurofeedback therapy.
00:34:11
Speaker 2: It's, it's, um, I call it a secret and I don't
00:34:12
want it to be a secret anymore.
00:34:13
Oh, excellent, excellent.
00:34:13
No, I thank you.
00:34:14
I really just wanted to make sure that they understood, um,
00:34:17
and you did it, because that was my next thing.
00:34:18
We need to know how to get in touch with you and I thank you.
00:34:21
I thank you so much.
00:34:22
Until next time.
00:34:23
This is dr jewel signing off.
00:34:25
I just want you to take care and remember that this is for
00:34:28
your cognitive health and for your cognitive happiness.
00:34:31
May each of you have a beautiful day.
00:34:33
I hope you enjoyed this episode of Cold Press Conversations.
00:34:38
If you love this episode as much as I did, I need you to
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head on over and subscribe so you never miss an episode.
00:34:46
This is Dr Jewel signing off to health and cognitive happiness.
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